Cups of Tea & Living in Hope: Notes from the road

Two things stand out from my visit to Bharat last week: lots of (sometimes too sweet) tea and a palpable sense of hope.

I managed to squeeze in four semi-public meetings during my 4-city trip, and several private conversations centred on political reforms and prospects for change in India..

The first of these meetings – in Bengaluru – was organised by Janaagraha on the topic of “New Age Political Movements” in India. I shared a panel with Dr Shankar Prasad who is contesting as a Loksatta candidate in the upcoming BBMP elections. I spoke about Freedom Team of India (FTI) and how we hope to become the platform for change in Indian politics (will be uploading slides soon)

At Janaagraha

Two days later, I spent several hours with the latest batch of participants at the MIT School of Government in Pune. We discussed the difficulties of a career in politics and explored some of the factors behind terrorism

At MITSOG

This was followed by a late evening (really late – 9pm!) talk in Pune to a large (about 200+!) group of enthusiastic youngsters (thanks to Dinesh and Amit for giving me the opportunity to speak).  My presentation was short but the enthusiasm in the room was palpable…

And I spent the last day of my visit at FTI’s first conference in Mumbai.

Two points came up repeatedly in all these discussions:

  1. A failure of leadership and lack of leaders with vision, courage and integrity to lead India today
  2. The need to be directly involved in politics to make any significant impact on the present situation in India

Although I was often accused of being too pessimistic during these discussions, I remain hopeful…not least because I see people asking questions about their leaders and about why politics in India does not attract the kind of people that other fields do. That itself is a big change…and I believe it is very positive.

The first step to change has to be the awareness (at a mass level) that things are not how they should be…and I think we in India are getting to that point.

You can find more photographs from some of these interactions on the blog’s page on Facebook and below are two excerpts from write-ups on the event in Bengaluru: one by Karthika on iJanaagraha and another by Pramod on his blog.

Some excerpts from Karthika’s post:

Mr Shantanu started his presentation with a dark prediction. According to him, in forty years, India can either be a successful economy or on the brink of complete turmoil. He casually asked a rhetorical question: Where are the leaders who will take us there? It is to fill this gap that he’s launching Freedom Team of India, a platform for individuals from any background who can join and believe in their philosophy which encourages classical liberalism, equal opportunity, maximum freedom and a minimum but strong and enabling government.

…As pointed by Dr.Prasad the mainstream parties are trapped in a vicious circle and neither capable nor willing to transform the nature of politics. This is where both  leaders think the new age political parties make sense. But the biggest challenge the new parties face is in attracting 300M middle class Indians to participate.

and an extract from Pramod’s post (titled, “A pleasant political evening”!):

…Shantanu believes that in a couple of decades, India will have a big enough middle class that classical liberalism can be a viable political plank. Until then, when most people are living hand-to-mouth, they won’t be interested in individual freedoms or restricting government. He also believes that by then the Internet and mobile will cut down publicity costs for any political party, and it’s possible to build a grassroots network that circumvents mainstream media….For now, Shantanu is only interested in getting people “to think, and to read” as he put it and engage in serious debate on political issues. He hopes that in a few years he’ll have MP’s running as liberals in some Lok Sabha seats. And Freedom Team will remain a non-electoral but political association of like-minded people.

…However Shantanu made an admittedly outrageous remark that he thinks increasing voter turnout is an over-rated concept and he wished people would be more aware of the issues instead. Well, I do wish that Jaagte Raho doesn’t get consumed in electoral politics and these young minds expose themselves to a wide range of ideologies also. As the moderator himself confessed, sometimes after a lot of campaigning they only see a marginal change in turnout and it’s not like better candidates are getting elected anyway.

…another person called Anand Bala (early 30’s?) who’s quit a decent private sector job and travelled all over India last year just in order to “politically sensitise” himself in a deeper way…mentioned that he’s changed many of his viewpoints after these journeys. He raised some opposition to Shantanu’s free market approach by arguing a role for government intervention too.And there was this other chap who had a foreign twang and asked very pertinent questions. Most memorably why does Shantanu’s plank not talk about healthcare and schooling? He introduced himself as a bachelors student in History, Econ and Political Science. I was stupefied to see a flesh and blood sample of this endangered species in Bangalore.

Later on, I spent some time in a group who were chatting with Shantanu mainly. In fact what piqued me to go for this talk was a reference to Hayek’s Fatal Conceit in the very first page of the FTI’s principles. He runs a blog called Satyameva Jayate and is currently shuttling b/w UK and India as he prepares to move back to India. I haven’t checked him out in any detail yet.

While it is clear that a lot of people desperately want change, few are keen (or able) to work towards bringing about that change.  There is also increasing fragmentation amongst the “New Age Political Movements” which cannot be good for anyone who is concerned about reform in the political system (Indeed, the Hope Summit is part of an effort to change this situation)

I can go on and on about this and the other meetings…but instead of boring you with the details of what happened, I would like to close this post with a bunch of (hopefully) thought-provoking questions (emphasis added)…

  • Can you really have a “New Age Political Movement” in India without relying on instruments of the system?
  • Can one have more impact and/or influence by joining a mainstream/estalished political party and getting them to implement the ideas and policies of “New Age Political Movements”?
  • Can any such effort succeed without years of ground-level (or mass-based) activity and without having an organised cadre/organisation of committed members?
  • How critical is the “content” of the message (as compared to the “communication”)?
  • How can the “New Age Political Movements” get some quick wins?
  • How important is to be perceived as “winnable”?
  • Should parties target followers or leaders – or both?

…and finally (I’m being deliberately provocative):

Are we (as in all of us involved in some way or the other with “New Age Political Movements”) too “educated” for our own good?

Dwell on these…and do share your views & experiences. Jai Hind, Jai Bharat!

P.S. You can read some snippets from the Q&A at the Janaagraha event on their twitter page (look at the tweets from 15th Feb)

Related Posts:  Changing India – Step III and Quick Notes from Indore – Part II

B Shantanu

Political Activist, Blogger, Advisor to start-ups, Seed investor. One time VC and ex-Diplomat. Failed mushroom farmer; ex Radio Jockey. Currently involved in Reclaiming India - One Step at a Time.

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15 Responses

  1. Congrats Shantanu on your Bharat trip … nice to know that spirit of Hope is being seeded in the young minds of India.

    Janagragha is a very good initiative, i have few friends of mine who have contacted Janagraha and offered to provide free legal assistance if at all there is any requirement or a possibility to launch a new programme.

    It would be an interesting debate if you want to start in FTI forum on panchayati raj and its impact. Also the discussion can be expanded into the relevance of local body elections?

  2. Khandu Patel says:

    I have found Shantanu the most articulate person who wishes to usher in change to the Indian political calculus. I agree with him entirely on that object. I remain to be convinced that this can be achieved without shaking the very foundations of the modern Indian state. The basic instincts of any human beings is to pursue their desire for self-fulfilment. Thus the noble savage would fight to defend and win his prize: liberty means everything to the man who is willing to fight to the death. The Indian middle classes even if they were to act in concert would not manage a majority in electoral terms in the foreseeable future.

    Throughout history it is the highest elements starting with the king that brought the country together in the principate. This was based on the aristocracy leading by example. I see nothing in India’s high society that is capable of leading by such example. It is precisely because of their self indulgence that it is necessary to entertain the radical idea that they would have to be excised altogether or transformed from within. The was what the Communists of Russia and China recognised. For all their faults, pre-revolutionary Russian and Chinese governments were predicated on the uplift of their people and nation.

    I am angry as Shantanu that this is clearly not the case with India. Shantanu is right to pursue the strand that liberalism is the most important ingredient for the economic transformation which has been happening despite the poor governance that prevails in the country. Liberalism is certainly a better clothes horse than dharma for transformation by muscular means to be possible. I do not myself much doubt the importance of the state in regulating all matters.

    I do not see the ideological underpinning in India’s traditional society that is capable of mobilising the population to a better future. It is on ideology that Bharat’s middle classes can make that crucial difference. It is necessary for such ideology to be more than a subject of discourse but a manifestation of power and influence every facet of life in the country.

  3. shanth says:

    It has been a long time since we interacted Shanatanuji.

    COngrats on your successful trip to our motherland. I hope to meet you in person the next time you come to INdia.

    THings are moving in right direction. You know my e-mail. please mail me and we can either chat on Skype or over phone. I wish to share with you some very important developments.

  4. B Shantanu says:

    @ Ashwin: Thanks…There has been some discussion on the FTI forums re. “Panchayati Raj” and relevance of local body elections…Unfortunately I have not been able to keep up with it…
    Have you considered joining?

    ***

    @ Khandu: Thanks for your warm words of support and encouragement.
    I hope that change can come without any major disruptive event…(or indeed violence)…but the fault lines are sometimes very deep…
    I sense a growing disconnect amongts people and within communities…It is sad (and tragic) that as we keep giving more prominence to sub-identities, the national identity gets weakened and the alienation increases…
    How does one reverse this? It is a mammoth task…the task of raising a sense of identity and consciouness on a national scale…But I remain hopeful..

    You are right that – by and large – India’s elites (in all senses) have apparently given up on the idea of a great nation…so there is the challenge of rekindling hope as well.

    I am hopeful a transformation from within can occur…is it going ot be easy? Surely not…and neither quick.
    ***

    @ Shanth: Thanks…Yes, its been a while…I will email you some dates/time…and am hoping to see you next time I am there. Separately, I am hoping to revive the Skype calls once again.

  5. Dear Shantanu

    A great post. Lots of issues you raise. The bottomline is very simple, however: (a) do we have enough leaders? (b) do we have philosophical agreement?

    (I make the assumption that each of us possesses self-respect and won’t dirty our hands by joining existing corrupt configurations).

    As Atanu Dey mentioned to me a few days ago in Mumbai, this boils down to a coordination problem. Someone has to offer a credible signal that the ‘party’ has begun. (The Delhi Tea Party?) Then others will assemble.

    I think FTI is seriously making a credible offer to India: as a platform of leaders in a team (all of them EQUAL to each other in every way).

    If such a signal has been given then it is time for everyone who has ever thought of changing India rise and join FTI (they MUST be willing to contest elections and meet other ‘who should join’ conditions). Then let them debate and decide policy. Note that FTI is a purely classical liberal group. We don’t want socialist ideas. Socialism has destroyed India’s moral fibre completely. It is poisonous beyond the worst poison that can be imagined.

    After this initial hard work is done (i.e. of finding sufficient number of leaders and getting policy agreement) then a LOT of good things will start happening. Indeed, governments in India will start shifting their behaviour in response as soon as a serious credible alternative is presented. The key is that people must WANT the change. Else it won’t happen.

    Note that FTI is not a political party, but a not-for-profit trust for leadership development. Political action needs a lot of preparation. If people contest elections without knowing what to do when they get elected, the people of India will lose hope completely. Offering an ethical alternative is not the job of a few independent candidates or a few small new look outfits.

    But if good (and competent) people do not quickly join this platform and work together to achieve cohesive outcomes, India should expect to grow economically even as mis-governance, corruption and venality (and terrorism from Naxalites, etc) increases.

    FTI is an offer. It is up to India to take it up. India needs excellent, indeed great leaders. Let the best people of India assemble. Please join ONLY if you are really keen to see a dramatically (and ethical) better India (http://freedomteam.in/).

    Regards
    Sanjeev

  6. B Shantanu says:

    Thanks Sanjeev.

    You have nailed the issue here: The key is that people must WANT the change. Else it won’t happen.

    This is where the mammoth task of raising consciousness and awareness comes in…I believe we need to focus on this in the short term.

  7. @ Shantanu,

    I have made an application to join FTI – waiting to hear from the team.
    The reason i asked you re Panchyati raj and local body elections is if we need a true empowerment of the people, we need to provide the opportunity of governance and also define its transperency right from the lower rug.

    Unfortunately i dont see this happening. Also it is easy to manipulate these local body elections and representatives. May be i can share few examples …..which could help shape the discussion. As for my opinion (as of today), theoritically i would like to have empowered local bodies but in practical sense, i really am not that concerned (reasopn being there is a lot of rot and that cant be stemmed through political movement).

  8. AparnA says:

    Wow… I am actually seeing something happening 🙂

  9. Dr Dipak says:

    Shantanuji,
    I am a keen reader of this. Sometimes these writings are too big for me…
    I am a doctor living in UK for a long time…
    I have just come back from India.I had a shock when I saw friends chtting between themselves in English, even mothers talking to children in English. It was a jawdropping experience.

    Another thing I noticed, most middleclass people do not know, what’s happening in India. In the name of democracy, Nehru dynasty is making Bharat a most ant-Hindu country, helped by the newsmedia.

    Only party I trust is BJP, provided the leadership plays its rightful role. asked my friens (all doctors 0 about BJP. The reply I got, BJP is a Marwari party. It shows Hindus are not united. I don’ think, Muslims in Bharat will remain under unislamic rule for long (of course they have more facilities in Bharat than in any other Islamic country.)

    Hindus need to change their mindset in Bharat, if they want to stay as Bharatiyas. Enough for to-day.
    I appreciate what you are doing.

  10. B Shantanu says:

    Dear Dr Dipak: Chakrabarti-ji,
    Thank you for your very kind words of encouragement and support…

    I am not surprised to read about your experience in India…We are rapidly moving away from all aspects of tradition and culture (and the pace at which it is happening is breathtaking)…Youngsters today are more likely to remember Valentine’s Day than Vasant-Utsav (or Makar Sankranti – just as an example) and yes, Bharatiya languages are slowly dying…starved of usage, scholarship and of course funds.

    The media – in its all encompassing glamour (and the attendant noise) – manages to keep most sensitive (and critical) issues out of the general public discourse..So Rahul Mahajan gets more space and time than infiltration in the North-East.

    The task to bring about a change in awareness and consciousness (almost a “jan-chetana” movement) is massive and urgent…that is where most of my energy is spent these days…

  11. Vidhya says:

    Dear Shantanu,
    Nice website, and enjoying your posts as always. Great initiative, and hopefully something good will come out of it.

    Regards

  12. B Shantanu says:

    Pertinent…in view of my last (deliberately provocative) question:

    It’s unlikely Sonia knows much about world history. If she has read Seneca and Cicero she doesn’t show it. Those unburdened by education, like Sanjay Gandhi, find it easier to view things as either good or bad.

  13. Jagatheswaran says:

    I got inspired by the writings of Hayek and Mises.In India,we had a political party(Swatantra Party found by Rajaji) once advocated free market economics.It was able to even garner seats in Lok Sabha.But eventually it got wiped out.For some reason it was viewed as a elitist party back then.They couldn’t connect with the common man.
    I think more than ever indian middle class is receptive to the message of free market and limited govt.We just need to express our ideas in a way they can understand.Right now, i am working on a book in Tamil language about how the govt control of economy has crippled us and why we need free market.I’ve planned to keep it very simple without any graphs or too much statistics.

    I will be moving back to India from US early next year.I am hoping to get my book ready by then and taking it to people thru book fairs and college speeches.
    Once our people are hooked on to the internet( like cellphones),we would definitely see a tremendous shift in their perspective about things.As we are quick adopters of technology, we can definitely trust on the power of the internet to change people’s mind.
    So, I am very optimistic about our future.

  14. B Shantanu says:

    @ Jagatheswaran: For some reason it was viewed as a elitist party back then.They couldn’t connect with the common man.

    I think this still remains a challenge – especially with the nascent political movements…

    I would love to hear more about the book you are writing…Unfortunately I cannot understand Tamil but if there is ab English version, I would like to have a look at it.

    Pl do stay in touch on this. Like you, I am optimistic about our future.

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